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Winch2010 - Retriever2010 - Turnarounds - Winch Motors

bullet Read the Winch2048 review in Model Aviation magazine
bullet Check out how the winches are being used!
bullet Please read the Warranty and Disclaimer at the bottom of the page.
bullet Why are your winches so expensive?

The Winch2010 will meet or exceed the expectations of the most discriminating pilot for fun and competition launching.  It produces twice the horse power as the FLS powered winch and is recommended for advance pilots.

The FLS powered Winch2000 is available by special order only.  Motors or frames will not be socked for the build, please allow 8-10 days to complete.  Contact me for more information.

The Retriever2010 is now a AutoPickUp retriever.  If you are familiar with the Rham retriever then you know what this one is like with two major differences.  The Retriever2010 will automatically pick up the line for the retrieve and is slowed down by about 70% to reduce injury to the operator and help prevent line twisting.

The Turnaround I is a simple ball bearing supported glass filled nylon pulley designed to be maintenance free for its life.  Robust construction using 6061 aluminum and assembled with stainless steel hardware insure trouble free long life.  Three staking holes are provided for those powerful launches.

The Turnaround II is designed for those who wish to have the turnaround above ground or to reduce line drag and line wear.  Using the same pulley as the standard turnaround it features sides made from .250" 6061 aluminum and assembled with stainless steel hardware.

Winch Motors are brand new, not rebuilt.  They are a special built motor for model sailplane winch use.  They contain ball bearings from the factory, nothing is needed to make the suitable for winch use.  These motor are rated for continuous duty by the manufacture.

More detail can be found towards the bottom of the page.

Availability and Ordering Information
Starting in 2010 I will no longer stock "ready to ship" winches or retrievers.  The frames will be made and ready for final assembly of the motor.  Due to the expenses of the motor they will be ordered on a "as needed" basis.  The winch or retriever will require 5 days to assemble and get ready for shipment.  The number after the button will be the number of available frames currently available.

General Setup and Maintenance Instructions
Link to general winch setup instructions
Link to maintenance guidelines for the Winch2010

Winch2010 - a 4.8HP powered winch - $985.00

The motor used is a strong special purpose built native 12VDC motor producing 4.8HP at approximately 3000RPM.  Motor comes from the manufacture with ball bearings installed - not installed as an extra or as an afterthought.  It uses an isolated ground never relaying on frame ground which can cause the loss of power if something comes loose.  Frame is constructed from 12ga square tube discrete members to lighten the winch overall but cross members are added to resist frame flexing during extreme launches.  Staking rails are added to the bottom of the frame to insure the frame will set securely on a rigid platform or trailer.  Includes solenoid shorted warning LED's built into the frame of the winch as standard equipment.  The Winch2010 uses Anderson connectors for quick connect/disconnect from battery and foot switch.  Construction details here.  Price includes the winch, drum, battery connector and foot switch only, battery, line, parachutes and turnaround are not included (see package information below).   The battery you select does make a difference, please see the battery information section below.  You may add a solenoid actuation counter for an additional $15.00.  Shipping by FedEx ground 4-5 day and is a flat rate of $45.00 anywhere in the lower 48 states, contact me for other destinations. Shipping weight for the Winch2010 is 46 pounds. NoteThe Ford Long Shaft motors will not fit this frame due to the mounting differences between the FLS and the new motors.

Due to increased motor cost winches will no longer be available for immediate shipment.  Winch2010's will be assembled to the point of adding the motor and stocked.  Once an order is placed the motor will be ordered and the assembly completed – about 3-5 days.

Winch2010 RTL Package

RTL (Ready To Launch) is to winches what RTF (Ready To Fly) is to planes. 
These packages are intended for the new winch owner.  Complete with Winch2010, Turnaround I, line and chute contained in one box.  Only the ground stakes are necessary to complete the setup.  Available with either the Turnaround I or the Turnaround II.

Winch2010 Kit I - with Turnaround I - $1100.00

This is a $1174.00 value for $1100.00 - a savings of $74.00.
(Kit includes Winch2010, Turnaround I, line, chute, all hardware (except ground stakes) and shipping.)

Winch2010 Kit  II - with Turnaround II  - $1175.00

This is a $1250.00 value for $1175.00 - a savings of $75.00.
(Kit includes Winch2010, Turnaround II with Post, line, chute, all hardware (except ground stakes) and shipping.)

Winch2010 and Retriever2010 Package

Purchase a Winch2010 and Retriever2010 for one price including shipping.  Price varies depending on which turnaround you chose.  This kit will include everything necessary to setup to launch and retrieve except the stakes needed to hold the units in place - free shipping.

Winch2010 - Retriever2010 with Turnaround I - $1700.00
A savings of $144.00.

Winch2010 - Retriever2010 with Turnaround II - $1800.00
A savings of $120.00.
Free shipping is included - please contact me for details.

 

Retriever2010 - AutoPickUp Retriever - $675.00

The Retriever2010 is now an AutoPickUp retriever meaning the pilot can now launch and retrieve their own line without a retriever operator being present.  (Safety still dictates that a retriever operator should be present.)  A footswitch/push button switch is provided to operate the Retriever2010 once off tow.  To ready the Retriever2010 for the next launch a simple push of a switch resets the Retriever2010 for the next launch.  It features a 1.4 HP motor with a 10" belt driven drum and will retrieve about a 1000 feet of line in about a minute, fast enough to keep long lines from forming behind the winch but slow enough to enable the control of the retrieve without injury.  Drum is supported by ball bearing pillow blocks and comes with zerk fittings for lubrication.  Frame is constructed using the same quality materials and workmanship as the Winch2010 and will provide years of trouble free use.  Motor actuation is by footswitch or a hand held push button switch (optional) controlling a solenoid  which is used to supply current to the motor.  It is easy to setup and use, once the plane has released from winch line the pilot/retriever operator simply activates the switch and the Retriever2010 does the rest.  All wiring is captive so it can never be left at home.   Connection to the battery is with jumper cable type clips which are included. Shipping weight for the Retriever2010 is 42 pounds.  Includes the Retriever2010, line guide, 1 spool of #9 braided nylon line and the harness for connecting to the winch line. Shipping by FedEx ground 4-5 day and is a flat rate of $40.00 anywhere in the lower 48 states, contact me for other destinations.

Available about the end of February 2010.

Turnaround I - $99.00

I have searched for a new more robust pulley for some time and finally found one.  The diameter is 3.5" and is the same but is it .625" wide with the bearing cast into the glass filled nylon shell.  This makes for a stronger unit and much easier to machine and I can reduce the price without sacrificing quality or reliability.  The turnaround has been field tested with the Winch2010 and other winches and has performed very well.  The pulley is recessed into the sides .100” to insure the line will not foul on the sides during use.  Sloped back and front will align the line back into the grove for the next launch.  Sides of the uprights are curved and polished to prevent line abrasion during launch and retrieval.  The turnaround is made of 3/8" 6061 aluminum for long life.  The base is approximately 8" square and the staking holes are slightly larger than 3/8" so standard "tent stakes" from the local hardware store can be used.  Staking holes are angled in to help hold the turnaround during the most aggressive launches.  Parachute and other rigging may not fit between the pulley and the bottom plate and may have be removed before bringing the line in.  Shipping by FedEx ground 4-5 day is a flat rate of $10.00 anywhere in the lower 48 states, contact me for other destinations.

Turnaround II - $90.00

Inspired by fellow fliers who were looking for an "off the ground" solution for the turnaround.   With an appropriate down field post the pulley can be mounted 2, 3 or even 5 feet above the ground.  This will be great for those fields with a slight crown which can cause undue wear and drag on the winch line.  Made with the same ball bearing supported glass filled nylon pulley as the Turnaround-I (above) with the pulley recessed into the sides about .100" to insure the line will not foul between the side plates and the pulley.  Sides are made from .250" 6061 aluminum and finished by bead blasted the surface and coated with clear to protect the finish.  All edges are contoured and polished to reduce wear on the line when passing though the assembly.  The quick link is rated at 2500 pound break load and has a quick release feature making set up and take down a breeze.  Assembled with stainless steel hardware including the quick link.  Shipping by FedEx ground 4-5 day is a flat rate of $10.00 anywhere in the lower 48 states, contact me for other destinations.

Post for Turnaround II - $85.00

With the introduction of the “above ground” turnaround pulley (above) a suitable down field post  was in need of development.  Mike Fox succeeded in designing a very robust post getting the pulley assembly approximately 3 feet above the ground.  The post is made of 1” square tube with a 12” piece of solid steel bar welded in to the end going into the ground and a 6” piece in the top to provide a solid pounding surface.  The attaching point for the turnaround pulley goes through the post and connects to the pulley with the snap link, on the back side a ring provides an anchoring point for the tie backs.  The overall length of the post is approximately 48” and weighs about 8 pounds.  Standard length is 36” above ground but since they will be built to order any length can be specified up to the 48" maximum length.  The post will be sold as a separate item or a kit and will consist of all items necessary to get the pulley off the ground except the tie back rope and the tie back ground stakes which can be purchased at your local hardware store.  Shipping by FedEx ground 4-5 day is a flat rate of $15.00 anywhere in the lower 48 states, contact me for other destinations.

Note:  These posts will not be a stock item, each one will be custom made and require 3-5 days to make and ship.  Does not include the Turnaround II pulley.

         Not a stock item - Ground Stake - $85.00
Shipping charges will show once you proceed to check out page.  Please specify above ground height of stake in the notes section during checkout.

Turnaround II plus Post - $170.00
Tie back line are not include, stakes are not included - free shipping.

Winch Motors - $385.00

The new build motor used in the Winch2048-Winch2110 is now available for individual purchase.  These motors are band new and not rebuilt, they contain ball bearings from the manufacture and produce 4.8HP at approximately 3000RPM.  These motors are intended for the new winch build as they will not fit existing FLS frames without modification.  Motor will not be shipped from stock but will be dropped shipped directly from the manufacture to save time and shipping cost, please allow about five days to receive the motor.  Shipping will be by FedEx ground for $30.00 for the first motor and $15.00 for each additional motor ordered.

There is a bonus to all this wait, the motors are now chrome plated so your winch will have that built in BLING!

Not a stock item and will be dropped shipped from the manufacture.

         Not a stock item - $385.00
Shipping charges will show once you proceed to check out page

Solenoid Activation Counter

The only true way of knowing when the solenoids are nearing end of life is to count the number of actuations.  While they may last far beyond the recommend 50,000 activations it is prudent to change them out near the number of activations recommended by the manufacture.  Failure to do so can result in a welded contact with disastrous results.  This is a mechanical non-resettable counter so there cannot be a mistake of resetting before the expected end of life.  Restart will require the number be recorded preferably on the winch or solenoids themselves.   Not available for stand alone purchase.  Price is $15.00 installed on winch.  Color and size may differ from picture.

    Activation Counter installed on winch - $15.00
Only available with winch purchase

Ordering, Payment and Shipping Information

For more information or questions email and I will respond usually the same day.  I prefer PayPal as it protects both of us, credit card through PayPal (no account needed);  you can pay with a bank check or money order (no personal or company checks please) if you really must, contact me for mailing address.  Shipping by FedEx ground 4-5 day for a flat rate of $45.00 for a winch, $40.00 for a retriever and  $15.00 for a turnaround anywhere in the lower 48 states, contact me for other destinations.  Tracking information will be provided as soon as it is available.

Warranty
Due to the nature of the product and its intended use there is no warranty either expressed or implied.  I want you to be happy with your purchase and if a difficulty arises please contact me directly.

Specialty Items
I stock replacement parts for winch purchases only, I do not sell individual components, please contact the vendor below for individual parts.

Craig Christensen or MrKite
Parachutes made to order

Battery Information

I have been ask to recommend a "good" battery for winch use.  I am in no way a battery expert nor do I claim to know all that much about batteries other than they provide 12V DC for use for a period of time.  One criteria for me was a battery that would not spill acid if tipped over during transportation.

Based on the information below (and some guys from Texas) if I were purchasing a winch battery today it would be the Sears DieHard PM-1 (~$250.00) with the Optima D31 (~$225.00) a close runner up.  Cost wise they are in the same ball park and the PM-1 can be purchased locally so shipping is not a concern.  Quite frankly in my opinion Odyssey has priced the PC 2150 (~$315.00) out of this market.

August 2008 - A little update here:  I recently did purchased a Sears DieHard PM-1 and have used it several weekends for fun flying and one contest.  Launches seem the same as from the Optima D31 battery it replaced.  However, it is a back breaker!  That 15 extra pounds really comes into play when I have to drag it more than a few feet from my truck to the setup point.  So I developed the BatteryTransporter2000 to alleviate this problem, the transporter breaks down into a small package for storage and transportation.

Other battery information

The Optima D31 (D34 if smaller size is important) batteries are a spiral wound glass matt design and use a jelled acid instead of liquid making them spill proof if tipped over during transport.  The D31 battery offers three post styles, the M (both SAE and marine), A (SAE), T (marine). The D31M offers a 18 month free replacement and 18 month pro-rated replacement whereas the D31A and T offer a 24 month no charge replacement and pro-rate the remaining 12 months.  When looking for Optima batteries make sure any Optima battery you purchase has the light grey case and not the dark grey.  The light grey are the deep cycle which we want.

I have recently been introduced to a new (to me) battery that could also work very well for our application.  It is made by Odyssey and they offer three sizes of batteries, a G34, G31 and T6.  The construction is similar to the Optima but their specifications are somewhat better than the Optima but the cost is greater.  They use a square cell instead of the round like the Optima and therefore probably contain more surface area within each cell giving higher specifications than the round cell.  I have checked prices locally and found them to be $65-85 cheaper than the web site but you will have to pay sales tax.  I have not used or even seen one in use for powering a winch only in off road trucks and these guys love them.

Some added news about the Odyssey batteries has come to light thanks to some Texas fliers.  The Sears DiHard PM-1 battery is made for Sears by Odyssey and carries about the same specifications for substantially less money invested; ~$250.00 vs $385.00.  The PM-1 has both SAE (automotive) and stud terminals making winch setup even easier.  Unlike most of the other deep cycle batteries it has a three year free replacement warranty, a design life of 12 years and a service life of 400 plus cycles (6-10 years).  Please be aware the Odyssey PC 2150 and the Sears PM-1 weigh in at 75 pounds, the Optima D31 at 60 pounds so bring a friend to help carry these brutes to the field or get a BatteryTransporter2000!


           The Sears DiHard PM-1 is physically/eclectically the same as the PC 2150

Winch Construction details

Watch the build of the Winch2010...

  Warranty and Disclaimer

Warranty:  This winch/retriever/turnaround has been built and tested with care.  The same care that I would use for my own personal use.  Due the nature of the use to which the winch/retriever/turnaround will be put to there is no warranty either expressed or implied on the winch/retriever/turnaround as a whole or any component used to assemble the winch/retriever/turnaround.

Electrical Component (except motor):  If an electrical component fails (except the motor) during the first 30 days of ownership I will make a replacement available for what the part cost me to purchase. This includes the solenoids, foot switch and cables.  You must return the failed part for analysis, if the part is not returned no replacement will be made available.  Shipping both ways will be the responsibility of the owner.

Motor:  Due to the nature of the use to which the motor will be used there is on warranty on the motor. If you have a motor failure it can and should be rebuilt by a local rebuild shop.

Frame and Drum:  Frame or drum failures within the first 30 days should be returned to me so I can see the cause of the failure to help improve my process making the winch/retriever/turnaround stronger and safer.  I will either repair or replace the failed item at my desecration.  Failure to return the failed part will result in no repair or replacement.  Shipping both ways will be the responsibility of the owner.

Modifications: Any owner modifications to the winch/retriever/turnaround what so ever will void any of the above warranty immediately.  This includes but not limited to the addition of any solenoid warning device, ball bearings, switches, warning lights, clutches, wiring or any replacement part not authorized by the original builder of the winch/retriever/turnaround (The Shop).

Risks:  All winches/retrievers/turnaround are inherently dangerous due to the high speed rotating drum used to spool the line.  Debris can be picked up and thrown at great speed and injure onlookers or operators.  The speed at which the line is drawn in during a launch and retrieve can cause severe cuts and burns and care should be used when handling the line.  Power should always be turned off or the battery disconnected before performing any operation on the winch/retriever/turnaround or when working in close proximity to the winch/retriever/turnaround.  Loose clothing should not be worn in close proximity to the machines.  Burns and or fire can result if the battery connections or polarity are not observed.  Children should not operate the winch/retriever/turnaround without proper training and a trained adult present.

Any injury or damage caused by a malfunction or misuse of the winch/retriever/turnaround is the sole responsibility of the equipment owner.

Winches create a great amount of stress on any aircraft attached to the launch line and care must be taken when launching from the winch.  Too much power on time can and will break airplanes, even well built ones.  It is the responsibility of the winch owner to ensure all users of the winch are made aware of the potential of aircraft damage before being allowed to use the winch.

It is the sole responsibility of the winch/retriever/turnaround owner to ensure they are in good working order and to be ever observant during their use and discontinue use if any discrepancies are observed or reported.  The manufacture of the winch/retriever/turnaround (The Shop) has made every effort to ensue the winch/retriever/turnaround is in proper working order before shipment and should a failure occur and injury or damage result the owner or user of the winch/retriever/turnaround cannot hold the manufacture (The Shop) libel for any damages or injury to a person or an object.

Finally, these machines are extremely dangerous and are not toys and should be treated like any high speed tool or machine.  Proper maintenance is essential for the safe operation of the machines and the safety of the operators and bystanders.

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